The Call to Dunkirk

In Church, Culture, Family, Scripture on January 6, 2009 at 11:05 pm

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Over the last few years there have been a number of resolutions presented at both the Southern Baptist and the PCA Conventions regarding Christian children in public schools. In recent weeks, a new initiative has been unveiled, challenging parents to pull their children out of government schools called “The Call to Dunkirk.”

This report explores both this new initiative and the ongoing debate. Dr. Ray Moore of the Exodus Mandate and Dr. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission are today’s guests.

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  1. Paul, thank you for addressing one of the most important issues facing the church today. I pray that we wake up from our dreamy slumber before it is too late.


    “You cannot destroy a wasp’s nest without being attacked in return. Yet this is better than stagnation. In a slumbering church it is the adversary’s chief business to rock the cradle, hush all the noise, and drive away even a fly which might light upon the sleeper’s face; Satan’s great dread is lest the church should be aroused from her dreamy slumbers.” – Charles H. Spurgeon

  2. As a retired public school teacher I am convinced that our only hope is to rescue our children from the public (government) schools and raise a godly generation.

    Thanks for posting this video!

  3. Hi Paul,

    It is significant and very good that you have addressed this topic – the discipleship/education of the children of God’s children – on your show. Thank you.

    I am speaking as, among other things, a former certified teacher in private and public schools and a professor of education and science at the undergraduate and graduate levels.

    Many great men of the faith have understood and spoken out on the biblical discipleship of the children of God’s children for 100s and 1000s of years, and they would be appalled at how Americans daily send their children away to be discipled by others. American Christians (and those in most other nations) have ignored the theological doctrine of the discipleship of children for far too long. The state-run schools have never been the place for Christians’ children and finally people around the world are re-awakening to this truth. First, reading the word from Genesis 1:1 through Revelation makes it clear that God commands parents to do the day-by-day and hour-by-hour teaching, training, and indoctrination of their children, and that they shall not volitionally send their children away to be indoctrinated by other. Parents could be supported by or do this in concert with others of like-mind (i.e., Christian) in the local church/Christian community.

    Second, God gives the civil government the job of simply punishing the evildoer and commending the doer of good (Rom. 13:2-4; I Pet. 2:13-15) and the government is not, for example, to be teaching, training, and indoctrinating children in any way, such as in state/public schools or any other place.

    In other words, God commands parents to be the main disciplers of their children, and He never commands sending unsaved or immature children out to try to evangelize others (i.e., the so-called “salt and light” argument that one of your guests, Dr. Richard Land, and others try to make for sending their 6- and 10-year-olds into a pagan culture to save the souls of their foolish peers (Prov. 22:15 – foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child) and no-friend-of-God teachers; and my guess is that most of these parents have not seriously evangelized their pagan co-workers in the past year).

    Third, the experiential and research-based evidence is that the anti-biblical education/discipleship of children and youth causes the majority of Christian parents’ children to walk away from the Lord and biblical thinking and behavior. For example, read the Barna Group’s research over the past 20 years, and that of the Nehemiah Institute on churched youths’ and adults’ worldview. And there is much more research available. Dr. Land thinks that “some” public schools are not so anti-God as folks like your other guest, Chaplain E. Ray Moore, explain. Has Dr. Land ever randomly selected 30 public schools from across the nation and visited them for any length of time and then studied the micro- and macro-messages of their curriculum, theater, arts, teachers, and social milieu – I seriously doubt it.

    Again, thank you for approaching this crucial issue, and having E. Ray Moore on the show.



    That deliberately dumbs down children,
    Academically among industrialized nations America is nearly dead last. Approximately 40% of high school graduates are functionally illiterate, and of those who go to college approximately 42% have to take remedial courses.www.deliberatedumbingdown.com
    That indoctrinates children into accepting homosexuality as a normal alternative lifestyle. Bob Chase, head of the National Education Association said In April of 2002, “Acceptance of homosexuality should be the goal for educators.” There are now over 3,500 homosexual clubs in schools in all 50 states. http://www.mcpscurriculum.com
    That destroys children’s Christian belief.
    88 – 96% of children who attend public schools leave the church shortly after graduation.
    That sexually molests children. http://www.barna.org
    A recent study by the U.S. Department Of Education said that 4.5 million students were victims of sexual misconduct by teachers & other school employees in the past decade.
    That leads to increased illegal drug use by children.
    A study in Illinois showed that Dare and Quest lead to increased drug use. Since 1965 illegal drug use among youth is up 6,000 percent.
    That drugs children to make them easier to handle.
    Six million children are being given Ritalin or other psychotropic drugs. http://www.irnnews.com/news.asp?action=detail&article=18376
    That places children in physical danger.
    Nationwide, there were approximately 1,466,000 violent incidents that occurred in public schools in the1999-2000 school year
    That teaches children there are no absolutes.
    Children are taught values clarification & situational ethics. They are told there are no absolutes..
    That promotes New Age philosophy.
    Eastern religions are promoted while Christianity is banned.
    That indoctrinates children with the philosophy of socialism and the religion of Secular Humanism.
    Globalism, environmentalism, revisionist history are all used to indoctrinate children to believe in socialism and other collectivist philosophies rather than our American heritage.
    That increases children’s sexual behavior.
    Sex-ed has resulted in a 500% increase in pregnancy to single girls 10 – 15 years old since 1968.

    I don’t know what you would call such a system, but we call it EVIL. The system we’re describing, in case you haven’t figured it out, is the public (government) school system. Government schools devastate children morally, spiritually, and intellectually. Many knowledgeable people consider sending a child to a public school as a form of legalized child abuse. Your children deserve better.

    Studies show that homeschooled children and those attending Christian and private schools excel far above those in public schools in every category including socialization.

  5. Paul, thanks for this great report. I think that Dr. Land needs to be respectfully pressed regarding the unintended consequences of continuing the status quo.

    How many Christian families in the SBC will undergo significant trauma due to the harmful actions of children directly related to values learned and relationships initiated in public school? In particular, the single-parent family (especially the fatherless family) is impacted in greater measure in this case. What then would Land suggest the SBC do? How does the costs of after-the-fact intervention compare with the costs of training and assisting parents in making the sacrifices to providing their children a solidly Christian education?

    On the economics of Christian education, consider that most of these single-parent homes spend significant amounts of their income to put their pre-school children in day-care centers. How many SBC church buildings with Sunday School classrooms sit idle during the week while their members struggle to meet the expense of keeping their children in a day-care center? Is this not a ministry – a mission field – right at the doorstep? How many “Christian Education” facilities in SBC churches are large enough to run a small school during the week but are unused?

    Community leadership by the church in this area is critical. Christian business leaders need to be using their resources and influence to help make Christian education affordable. Scholarships for families who can’t afford Christian education isn’t as an intractable problem as Land would suggest. But how many pastors have the vision to see the work of the Kingdom of God past the walls of their congregation’s building and call the men of their churches to something higher than watching ESPN after the Sunday worship service? Are not our children worth it?

    -Ricardo Davis
    Woodstock, Georgia

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